Let's start with some backstory. A few years back, some friends of mine began teaching a new doctrine (well, new to me, anyway) that offended me, and not just a little bit.
Over-simplified, they began teaching that since we (already) have eternal life, therefore eternity is in play now, and therefore (and here's where I had trouble), we don't need to physically die. Eternal life can apply to our bodies, not just to our spirits.
These were people whom I know personally (some of them pretty wel), people I have learned to trust. I couldn't just blow it off as foolishness.
I was raised in a mainline denominational church. This would have been a scandal in that context, of course.
Then I spent a bunch of years in fundamentalist evangelical congregations. They might have used the word "heresy."
But new revelation is kind of always scandalous to the previous generation, the previous move of God.
So I set out to prove that doctrine wrong. "Everybody knows you die, and then you go to Heaven!" That was my first problem. Things that begin with "Everybody knows" are pretty often messed up, and almost never as simple as they seem.
I put several months of study, interviews, prayer into trying to prove them wrong. I failed. I have been unable to prove that doctrine wrong.
I did not, however, prove them right. So I've left this is the "We'll see" category. But I didn't let it go. So every so often, I brought it out and discussed it with Father. There was a lot of re-hashing the same questions, the same objections. He mostly just smiled and nodded, but at least we enjoyed our time together.
Then one day, I think it was the nine-hundred-and-eleventy-third time I brought it up, he spoke.
"You're missing the point here, Son." And suddently I realized that if my primary concern about Eternity is when it starts, or what the transition points are like, then I've put my attention on the wrong subjects.
We have (more to the point, I have) more important responsibilities than fussing about whether my body will grow old and die, or whether I'll pull an Enoch, or whether it'll be something else entirely. I am (we are) still charged with praying, both in word and deed, "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven."
That's where my attention needs to be: the work of the Kingdom here and now. The Great Commission still stands, after all.
So will my body live forever? Honestly, I don't much care any more. My Dad & I have work to do here & now, and at some point (a point that he is responsible for, not me), our partnership will change perhaps both in object and location, but that's not at all my job now.
Somebody a whole lot smarter than me once said something about "So whether we live or we die, we are the Lord's." Maybe he was onto something.
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Tuesday
Scripture Interpreting Scripture: Eternity
You know how some things are better when they’re together?
There’s more goodness when the right things come together. Cookies & milk
are like that. Red wine & good cheese. Garlic & onion.
For example, consider Romans 8:38-39: “For I am convinced
that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor
the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all
creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ
Jesus our Lord.”
I always enjoy finding new combinations of things that
belong together, that I had never considered together before. Sometimes that
happens to me with Scripture. This is called letting Scripture interpret
Scripture, and it’s known to be a good way to interpret the Bible.
When two or three passages are put together, sometimes
they mean more than they did when they were apart. And since “all Scripture is God
breathed, and is profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness,” we can be confident that it’s a legitimate use
of the Bible to use all of it for teaching or correcting our understanding of
God.

That’s kind of a big statement. It’s basically just a big
list of stuff that cannot separate us from the love of God. There’s a lot of comfort
in those verses.
Recently, two of the items on the list stood out to me:
the first one (“death”) and the last one (“nor anything else in all creation”)
also cannot separate us from the love of God. That’s a big deal.
And as I was reflecting on how we can’t be separated from
God’s love by death or nothing else, another verse drifted through my mind. (It
had my Father’s fingerprints on it.)
“But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the
murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters
and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This
is the second death.” [Revelation 21:8]
Wait, what? If death can’t separate me from the love of God,
then the second death, the “fiery lake of burning sulfur” cannot separate me
from the love of God.
But wait, there’s more! recently, God has been
speaking to me through John 12:32, so let’s bring that one into the mix. “And
I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” How many
people is he drawing to himself? It doesn’t say, “I will draw some people,” or “many
people” or “144,000 people” to himself. It says “all.” Whoa.
It also does not say, “I might draw” all people to
himself. It says, “I will draw,” and we studied that word to discover it was
indeed a forceful drawing, like drawing a sword, or drawing a bow, or drawing a
boat up onto the shore. “All” is a big word.
We can certainly argue that the promise of Romans might
be only for believers; I know because I’ve done it, trying to make God
exclusive. But God isn’t terribly exclusive (though his people certainly are),
which makes that application difficult. Possible, but difficult.
And we can certainly argue that the warning of Revelation
only apply to unbelievers; I used to teach that too, though if I’m honest, I
know believers who fit every one of those qualifiers for the fiery lake, which
kind of messes up that argument.
But John’s verse, now that little word “all” throws a
pretty epic wrench in that whole “us vs. them” thinking.
So here’s where this whole line of thinking leads me: if
there are people in the lake of fire, then the love of God is there with them, right
there in the fire with them, doing what the love of God does: drawing people to
Jesus.
That’s an unnerving conclusion. At this point, I cannot
set this down as “What I Believe.” I can’t say that I’m confident this conclusion
is an accurate representation of God (though I’m pretty confident that my
previous beliefs were drivel and malarkey, only suitable for fertilizing the
tomatoes).
All I’m saying is that if the whole Bible is true (and it
is), if all scripture is God breathed (and it is), then I need to consider this
carefully, seriously, in the light of the “whole counsel of God,” [Acts 20:27]
and also in light of “the exact representation of [God’s] nature” [Hebrews
1:3].
My tentative conclusion is that God is not nearly so
interested in smiting as we’ve tended to think he was. No, let me say it
another way: God sure appears to be way more committed to the people he loves,
and I think that might be everybody.
I think I’ve believed too little of him.
Thursday
Judgement Day: Life in Review
This video is a reminder to me of a day that’s coming. I call
it Big Screen Day. Some call it Judgement Day, but that doesn't fit so well for me.
I don’t actually know if my what I envision is theologically
sound. I developed this expectation during a season when I was being taught a
lot of foolishness, but this part remains with me.
In that viewing, I’ll finally learn of the effects of my
life on others around me, and the effect of my life, through them, on the
people they influence, people that I’ve never met.
I’ve invested part of my life serving some pastors and some
churches. On Big Screen Day, I’ll meet the people that I helped them disciple
into the Kingdom. I’ve spent part of my life investing in a generation of
believers who are following where I’ve gone. On Big Screen Day, I’ll see the
fruit of that investment, and I’ll learn where my investment has gone.
I can’t imagine what that day will be like. I expect there
will be tears, of one sort of another.
This man, Sir Nicholas Winton, has a a small part of his Big Screen
Day early. He gets to meet some of the fruit of his investment in this life.
During the War, he invested a good deal of his life rescuing children from the
Nazi death camps. Here, he gets to meet them, some of them.
I can’t imagine what that must be like. I expect there were
tears.
I try to make decisions in my life with Big Screen Day in
mind. I try to live with Eternity in mind. I try to make choices that will make
my Friend smile as we review my life. I try to choose things that won’t need to
be edited out.
And once in a great while, I’ll turn to face where I imagine
the Heavenly camera might be, and I’ll say some things to the audience watching
that Big Screen, whether it’s just Him and me or whether it’s uncounted
millions.
Have you given thought to that Day, the Day when you and
your Maker will review your life? I’ll bet it will change how you live in this
day. And if he’s your friend, I’ll bet you’ll love those changes.
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